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George Bush now accepts it:

““In recent years, science has deepened our understanding of change and opened new possibilities for confronting it,” Bush said in announcing his proposal. “The United States takes this issue seriously.””

http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/43467/story.htm

China now accepts it:

“Implementing a climate change containment policy may cost a fortune, but the cost will be even higher if we delay. Early action is imperative,” Ma said. Not the leader, but he wouldn’t be saying that in Xinhua without top level approval.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-06/04/content_6196302.htm

US and China plans to address it may still be weak. But deniers here are still claiming that global warming is not man made.

What world leader supports that position?

Is it claimed that they are all “liberals”?

Isn’t denial now a fringe belief, like saying we didn’t go to the moon?

See also:

http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=6688
Try this link instead of the last one:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12477278&ft=1&f=1001
Tomcat - Your information (I don’t know where you got it) is almost all wrong.

There has been slight cooling over the Pole. in Antarctica. Most scientists attribute that to ozone depletion over Antarctica.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=17257

But, as the above data shows the Antarctic Peninsula is warming faster, a matter of some concern.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4228411.stm

The oceans are steadily warming, I have no idea where you get that nonsense that they’re cooling.

http://www.oceansalive.org/explore.cfm?subnav=article&contentID=4704

The troposphere is also warming. There were some problems with satellite data, which was confusing the stratosphere and the troposphere, those problems were fixed long ago. Details here:

http://www.globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Image:Satellite_Temperatures_png

Bottom line - the information you state is generally false, except for Central Antarctica.

“Professor John Marburger, who advises President Bush, said it was more than 90% certain that greenhouse gas emissions from mankind are to blame.

The Earth may become “unliveable” without cuts in CO2 output, he said”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6994760.stm

Here is Marburger’s rather impressive background:

http://www.climatescience.gov/Library/bios/marburger.htm

Basically he’s endorsing the IPCC’s findings. Why would President Bush’s science advisor do such a thing if there were any significant doubt in the scientific community that the IPCC report is correct and humans are the primary cause of the current global warming?

Can any global warming doubters explain this?

… an agenda, and not science?

In the 1990s, predictions of a greenhouse-warmed Antarctic abounded. As time passed, though, problems surfaced. Research paper after paper indicated that, other than the tiny Antarctica peninsula, the continent was in fact cooling—and had been doing so for many decades.

The climate science community quickly spun a number of possible explanations, including ozone holes, ocean currents, and terrain that cut off Antarctica from the world’s warming. As the certainty in the cooling trend grew, so did their statements, until they eventually began stating that they had predicted a cooling trend all along. As the folks at RealClimate put it, “Doesn’t this contradict [global warming]? Not at all, because a cold Antarctica is just what calculations predict and have predicted for the past quarter century.” Cooling was thus cast as proof of global warming, not refutation.

Speaking at a news conference today, Steig (the main author of the current Antarctic warming paper) said, “We now see warming is taking place [in] accord with what models predict as a response to greenhouse gases.”

Why else would they do such a major flip flop on their positions?
Ken: here is a link by a paper by Shindell saying cooling is consistent with models.
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2004/2004_Shindell_Schmidt.pdf

Here is a link from the NY Times were Shindell says “It’s extremely difficult to think of any physical way that you could have increasing greenhouse gases not lead to warming at the Antarctic continent.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/22/science/earth/22climate.html?_r=2&hp